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Ben Turner Adjustable Regulating Door Spring and Adjustable Top Centre Hinge.

2/14/2017

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Whilst waiting to hear from the Manchester Museum about their Ben Turner/Gibbons floor springs (along with much else) I have had a call to repair Nigel and Julies BT door springs.

Their Ben Turners control doors from a small entrance hall leading into their lounge and are believed were originally controlling the doors of what were once the main doors to the converted shop they now live in, parts of which were built in the 1600's, the doors themselves are mahogany.

The BT door springs were invented around 1872 and as you will see they will not be an easy repair especially as the whole spring mechanism and arms are missing from one and I believe the spring in the other is broken.

From looking at the patent, the spring is a clock type spring which I imagine to be quite wide.

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The hole from whence it emerged.

More to follow as investigation progresses as to what exactly is the problem other than the obvious missing parts.

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The broken spring above as suspected.
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As I have already shown you the 1872 patent for the above door closer in a previous blog post I will show the 1875 Ben Turner patent for his top hinge, slightly different to Adams (edit: Nigels) and Julies above, but similar. I do have one of the exact top centres in the patent and will show it in due course.
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Getting to the heart of the matter to find out the problem can often be very difficult!
As always please feel free to ignore my efforts to enlighten you all on the wonderful world of floor springs and door closers.
3 Comments
Nigel Nolan
2/24/2017 01:52:19 pm

Hi Rod

Looks like you're making progress (even if you did change my name to Adam half way through :))

Just to let you know, I've had the doors taken back to the original mahogany which is looking pretty good. New safety glass going in shortly, and I'm still looking for some new (old) door pulls.

I hope you can get the closers working if you need anything from me , let me know.

Kind regards

Nigel

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Rod Fathers link
2/25/2017 02:42:00 pm

Nigel,

I am so sorry about your name change I must have been thinking of Adam from America for whom I am trying to get some information/measurements/parts for a Yale/Bardsley floor spring he has and like one of yours it is missing all the mechanism. My problem with his is I do not have one to replicate the parts (if anyone reads this and can help please get in touch).

As regards your BT's I am just waiting on a price for springs and I will be in touch as soon as I have them, the other parts can be made and I have the price for those. I do hope very much you give me the go ahead (nudge, nudge).

Talk to you soon, Nigel.

Best

Rod

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Nigel Nolan
11/8/2017 11:42:28 pm

Hi Rod

I have made several efforts to contact you so I can get an update.

I think I am keen to proceed but you were going to get costs to me.


Can you please contact me and let me know where we stand with this

Thanks

Nigel

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